我认为论坛讨论的MBTI和艺术icles like this one have a tendency to bring out a lot of ideas that ALL INFJs or ALL ENTPs are one way or that we all struggle with the same things... but it kind of frustrates me when we try to peg each other like that and don't give grace to the fact that we are all individuals with different experiences... sigh*
I don't think I'm particularly "evolved" in that I tend to be really hard on myself and feel disconnected a lot of the time, but I do also understand that I tend to want people to care about connecting more than they do and I end up being hurt by misunderstandings or disinterest. At the same, while I am disappointed and somehow want interest in a friendship to be reciprocated, I also know that I cannot expect everyone to be as interested in me as I am in them... that would be asking too much.
As far as getting along with other types is concerned, I think for me the only defining factor is N... it seems to dictate the kinds of conversations you can have and it can be difficult to communicate with such a different mindset... in general though I don't find myself to be easily annoyed by people in general, though I can get somewhat drained if a relationship or conversation is very one-sided. I also don't tolerate it well when people are judgmental towards others--lol, I'm judgmental of judgmental people? I'm just full of contradictions... heh.
I'm not sure why INFJs are often seen as toxic or narcissistic, but I do see that I am sometimes argumentative and stubborn in wanting people to undestand where I'm coming from... to me, narcissism is when a person is very self-serving in their actions or words rather than when someone is feeling conviction about something or they don't want to be misunderstood... I would prefer that everyone get a long and listen to one another, but when it comes to social justice or principles that I have I am often unable to back down. I think that it would be wonderful to have an ENTP in my life to level me out with my seriousness as I do tend to dwell on things and get stuck in my own head (especially regarding negative thinking)... in reality, I want to let loose and have fun and take things lightly as well--some of us just aren't built for that on a regular basis (some of us have to be in the right head space)... the world outside weighs us down even if we can see the beauty in it, because we can also see the ways in which people are harmful to each other. If it makes any sense, I think my negativity comes from a place of love and wanting everyone to be good to each other--the frustration over the world not working that way often results in my negative thinking.
I do wish that my own partner could engage with me without getting upset at my opinionated nature or the way that I care about social justice and equality. He seems to get annoyed more than anything unless we're discussing something that he is interested in, when I am always up for discussing anything he is into. I do have other interests such as art and music, but even then he rejects everything I'm into and is never open to me introducing him to new things. It can get exhausting and lonely living with someone who doesn't seem to ever want to have a conversation with me. Not that there aren't positive sides to the relationship... but there are certainly things lacking that make me feel even more disconnected. The INFJ, I think, just wants to feel heard more than anything even if you don't agree with us.
I've also noticed that as my mental health gets worse, I test more closely to INFP and I wonder why that is... my lack of structure and motivation when I have depression getting in the way may be the reason? It's not that I don't want to have structure in my life, I just don't have the energy or self-love to put things in action these days (though I did just finish nursing school). I also have been drinking and smoking more and exercising/getting out less since COVID, which is really assisting with that decline... and it's not that I can't take responsibility for myself... it's that I am having a hard time loving myself in spite of knowing what I am doing wrong and knowing how to change it.
Anyways, that was way too wordy and I apologize for the rant... I just wish we could all accept each other as humans rather than as an MBTI type? Sensitivity and rationality can take a lot of different forms... and some of us can be sensitive and rational at the same time--I like to think that deep down I'm very rational but also very sensitive... which can get confusing for people. Ok I think I've run out of things to say... but the discussion is interesting either way. Just please try not to pigeon-hole any one "type" of person, cuz that won't lead to anything positive<3
Britta-INFJ-T (not verified)says...
我认为论坛讨论的MBTI和艺术icles like this one have a tendency to bring out a lot of ideas that ALL INFJs or ALL ENTPs are one way or that we all struggle with the same things... but it kind of frustrates me when we try to peg each other like that and don't give grace to the fact that we are all individuals with different experiences... sigh*
I don't think I'm particularly "evolved" in that I tend to be really hard on myself and feel disconnected a lot of the time, but I do also understand that I tend to want people to care about connecting more than they do and I end up being hurt by misunderstandings or disinterest. At the same, while I am disappointed and somehow want interest in a friendship to be reciprocated, I also know that I cannot expect everyone to be as interested in me as I am in them... that would be asking too much.
As far as getting along with other types is concerned, I think for me the only defining factor is N... it seems to dictate the kinds of conversations you can have and it can be difficult to communicate with such a different mindset... in general though I don't find myself to be easily annoyed by people in general, though I can get somewhat drained if a relationship or conversation is very one-sided. I also don't tolerate it well when people are judgmental towards others--lol, I'm judgmental of judgmental people? I'm just full of contradictions... heh.
I'm not sure why INFJs are often seen as toxic or narcissistic, but I do see that I am sometimes argumentative and stubborn in wanting people to undestand where I'm coming from... to me, narcissism is when a person is very self-serving in their actions or words rather than when someone is feeling conviction about something or they don't want to be misunderstood... I would prefer that everyone get a long and listen to one another, but when it comes to social justice or principles that I have I am often unable to back down. I think that it would be wonderful to have an ENTP in my life to level me out with my seriousness as I do tend to dwell on things and get stuck in my own head (especially regarding negative thinking)... in reality, I want to let loose and have fun and take things lightly as well--some of us just aren't built for that on a regular basis (some of us have to be in the right head space)... the world outside weighs us down even if we can see the beauty in it, because we can also see the ways in which people are harmful to each other. If it makes any sense, I think my negativity comes from a place of love and wanting everyone to be good to each other--the frustration over the world not working that way often results in my negative thinking.
I do wish that my own partner could engage with me without getting upset at my opinionated nature or the way that I care about social justice and equality. He seems to get annoyed more than anything unless we're discussing something that he is interested in, when I am always up for discussing anything he is into. I do have other interests such as art and music, but even then he rejects everything I'm into and is never open to me introducing him to new things. It can get exhausting and lonely living with someone who doesn't seem to ever want to have a conversation with me. Not that there aren't positive sides to the relationship... but there are certainly things lacking that make me feel even more disconnected. The INFJ, I think, just wants to feel heard more than anything even if you don't agree with us.
I've also noticed that as my mental health gets worse, I test more closely to INFP and I wonder why that is... my lack of structure and motivation when I have depression getting in the way may be the reason? It's not that I don't want to have structure in my life, I just don't have the energy or self-love to put things in action these days (though I did just finish nursing school). I also have been drinking and smoking more and exercising/getting out less since COVID, which is really assisting with that decline... and it's not that I can't take responsibility for myself... it's that I am having a hard time loving myself in spite of knowing what I am doing wrong and knowing how to change it.
Anyways, that was way too wordy and I apologize for the rant... I just wish we could all accept each other as humans rather than as an MBTI type? Sensitivity and rationality can take a lot of different forms... and some of us can be sensitive and rational at the same time--I like to think that deep down I'm very rational but also very sensitive... which can get confusing for people. Ok I think I've run out of things to say... but the discussion is interesting either way. Just please try not to pigeon-hole any one "type" of person, cuz that won't lead to anything positive<3